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My wife would rather
think of me as a bum
than of herself as
a patroness of the arts;

some people just
set themselves up for
low self-esteem...

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Date: 2007-06-18 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swamp-rose.livejournal.com
then the pattern is set and rarely broken

Date: 2007-06-20 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olbuksings.livejournal.com
i totally agree. but in recent months i've tried to be more of a "uniter" than a "rebel." and one of the things i've relied on, to offset the personal cost of doing that, is the wry humor.

another thing that might work would be any evidence of positive results. but those depend, at least in part, on other people. and unfortunately i have new concerns about my son and grandson. with whom, ironically, my motivation for the whole effort originated.

a former boss of mine used to say, with a wisdom beyond his years, that sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. i guess a third alternative would be to gnaw off your own limb to get out of the trap. but i think i'll try not to do that...

Date: 2007-06-20 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swamp-rose.livejournal.com
I don't see self-mutilation as an answer.

Self-denial for the greater good? Did that - don't regret it - 'though sometimes wished I could behave as badly as the other "adult" but for the greater good.... yeah, I see that.

Date: 2007-06-21 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olbuksings.livejournal.com
self-denial for the greater good=self-mutilation?! just kidding. well, maybe sometimes.

on the other hand, it is daunting, for mortals like me, to contemplate the absolute purity of heart, mind, and spirit that must accompany any deed declared to be for the greater good.

otherwise, there's such devastating potential for self-righteousness, hypocrisy, self-deception and plain, good old fashioned, shooting oneself in the foot.

uh-oh, there we go with the self-mutilation again...

Date: 2007-06-21 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swamp-rose.livejournal.com
Lines are blurred depending on perspective .... one person's self-denial could be seen as heroic or stupid .. depending on one's view of the world...

so... are will we see you at Night Writers?

Date: 2007-06-21 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olbuksings.livejournal.com
agree with you on perspective but seem to have problem when objective reality intrudes. have also demonstrated talent for shooting self in foot. and perhaps wounding others with same shot.

as for night writers, maybe, depending on date. leaving for left coast on july 6th, back on 24th. nothing ready to read but would like to see everyone.

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